Review of the Yedoo New Series Kick Scooter
>> I (Funbob Kickpants) am a scooter junky, with my Yedoo "New Series" City scooter being a third in a series I've purchased directly from its Czech manufacturer. This report highlights problems that I had setting up the scooter, including the steps I went through to buy it.
My Yedoo City New arrived in deplorable condition, and, apparently other people have had similar experiences. Search LKS Forums for other comments. That said, some of the issues can be fixed and we assume that Yedoos will get better over time, so don't let this March 2015 article become the last word on the subject.
Upon arrival, my new Yedoo's 12-inch rear wheel was grossly out of true, with spokes so loose they creaked. The replacement wheel wasn't much better, but it came in handy when spokes started breaking on the other wheel. I ended up having to completely rebuild the wheel. This solved the creaky spoke issue and centered the rim over the hub shell.
So, the wheel was finally tight, round and true. But despite having the rim centered exactly between hub flanges, the scooter still didn't "roll out."
I set the damn thing aside in favor of my other scooters, but the snappy-looking Yedoo still beckoned. Then I noticed something: The rim seemed closer to one fork arm, and wasn't centered precisely in the fork. How could the wheel be off-center in the fork if the axles were seated securely into the dropouts? Just for the heck of it, I unfastened the quik-release on one side, centered the wheel, and locked 'er down.
Now, the only thing keeping the axles seated in the dropout was the pressure of the quick-release lever. I made sure it was locked in tight and took it out for a test ride.
Bingo! Having that wheel aligned makes all the difference. The scooter rolls out properly now! But I still hadn't figured out why the axle was sitting crooked in the fork to begin with. I peered closely at the ends of the rear fork and noticed that the left arm was slightly shorter than the other. Putting a T-square across the dropouts showed a length discrepancy of about 2 mm. Those buggers are sending out defective frames in their rush to get a new model to market.
I guess I shouldn't complain too loudly; the imported rig was $318, including shipping and VAT. It's a smart-looking scooter with some nice features. Yedoo really must get their quality control act together, however, before they attempt to sell these bikes to people who know what to look for.
The following information outlines my experience with the Yedoo City New. From pictures, it appeared to have everything I needed except, of course, overall quality.
My Order and Purchase Experience
I bought the scooter on the Go 2 Scooter website on June 12th, 2014. Without going into a lot of details (which you can see on their site), I was able to pay with my Visa card. Everything, including emails, is done on business days, 8am to 4pm--no exceptions! This is pretty typically East European.
As promised, after a two-day preparation, the box was given to a Czech mailing operation called, PostaOnline, in Liberec, CZ. Although Go2 said they shipped DHL/USPS, the tracking info didn't mention DHL at all. Ten business day later, I got an email from USPS that my box was out for delivery. I couldn't see the progress of the shipment until it arrived in Columbus. Nevertheless, 12 business days is totally acceptable and a lot speedier than my Kostka took to ship (2 months!)
Here's the box that came completely sealed with black tape. The number of tears and rips indicate it took a pretty good beating enroot.
Shot of the carton with bandages removed. It's aliiiive!
Unlike the outside of the box, there was not a heckuva lot of packaging material in there. One of the plastic axle caps, in fact, was broken off which was of some concern.
Frame and components managed to escape injury. Nothing broken, scratched or bent.
I was a bit dismayed at the lack of bubble wrap around the wheelset. When I got them unwrapped, I found the rear wheel badly out of true, with a small dent on one of the braking surfaces.
Stem and BMX h/bars came through okay. That's one long stem, plenty there for a 6' rider. The ergo grips are really nice; they bolt on with Allen screws.
The Tektro Vs, sealed bearings that are silky smooooooth, high pressure tires ( 65 psi front, 80 rear), really nice paint with sharp, clean headbadge graphics and labels. Pretty decent quality for $236 USD. Whole bill (VAT, shipping included) came to $318 even.
The bad news is: You better be ready to shell out a few quid for bike shop assembly/adjustment. This means headset, wheel bearings, brake assembly/adjust and wheel truing. I managed to do everything myself, but the wheel truing, which only came to $16.
Of course, we can't forget the footboard. It has plenty of room for a size 12 man's shoe.
Can't say how long the plastic will hold up, but it bolted on with some nice, shiny Allen bolts. Note the double water bottle bosses! I have since fitted a pair of cages and matching water bottles; they look aircraft fuel tanks.
Deck height, top to floor is +-3 inches, and very easy on the knees.
There isn't any noticeable underside protection. The kickstand may serve as a skid plate, but only for a small portion of the entire frame. I stuck on a couple squares of Gorilla tape for the odd pavement encounter. The kickstand might drop under unfavorable riding conditions, so I secured it with a few squares of Gorilla tape.
Once I got the rig together and rolling, it seemed to be pleasant to ride. It's not fair to compare to my footbikes; this is really a true scooter and not a modified bicycle.
The tires are truck-like. In the future, I might replace the front Kenda with a Schwalbe Big Apple. If the US Yedoo people get these in, I wouldn't even consider a Mongoose as I did. The Yedoo has a better design and needs NO modifications for adult riding, as the Mongoose did. Note that to date, it appears that the Mongoose is no longer being manufactured with the last of these models only appearing online.
I did not ride the scooter until I received a new set of wheels. The ones that came on it were grossly out of true and shabbily built. Email was the usual struggle with the language barrier, despite the fact the their office is located in Ireland.
The days passed into weeks, waiting to hear what they intended to do. Then I get a phone call at work in halting Czech/English, saying that they would have to pass my issue on to company headquarters. Another couple of weeks pass, and I get an email stating that they are not waiting for company approval; They will send me a new set of wheels to "keep our customer happy."
I was frankly shocked at this decision, as Czech vendors can be stubbornly defensive about the quality of their products. This was evidenced by the new wheels not being rushed out to me, but sent by the slowest method possible. My wheels arrived yesterday, six weeks later.
The new wheels were okay, but the bearings and finish on the hubs aren't up to the quality of the first set. I ripped the Kenda Contakt truck tires off, and put on a set of Schwalbe Big Apples. The wheel build is only a little better on the new set; they stayed true for an entire ride. The rear rim is still slightly lumpy and out-of-round, however, but it rolls okay. I can live with it until I rebuild the other, nicer wheel. If nothing else, I got a set of spare wheel parts out of all this.
It's a handsome little rig, though. It's nicely finished and feels solid underfoot. Like my Mibo short-wheel, it requires more kicking to keep it going. I guess you could say a small-wheel is to a footbike what a donkey is to a racehorse. I remember what Gary Schmitt remarked, after trying out my Mibo: "Good resistance training." I think I'll hold off putting on a speedometer; I don't care to see how much slower it is. But it's fun to ride; it responds quickly to a kick and spurs me on see how much I can get out of it. Fits nice in the back of my car, too.
My advice to anyone interested in the new Yedoo: Wait for the US distributor to get them in. Don't make the mistake of getting one from Europe, unless you don't mind waiting a couple of months for something you may not be able to return.
Since getting the wheels somewhat sorted out, I've logged some mileage on the Yedoo.
Short rides of 25km, flat to rolling terrain, with some steep climbs and descents thrown in.
Though the hub bearings are sealed, "industrial" type, they seem to need some running in. I noticed that I gained a little more speed on each outing, and downhill runs are fast enough to make the slow climbs worth the effort.
I find the frame design, with the triple down tubes, both odd and fascinating. Though the twin bottle cages make for a rather wide frontal area, I don't find myself kicking them. The three tubes don't run the length of the frame, so they seem to add more style than stiffness.
I imagine a row of these attractive little scooters, on display in shop, would get some customers through the door. I wish I had been able to buy one at a shop that wouldn't dare sell one as kludgy as mine.
If you must buy mail-order, be sure to have it checked over by a reputable bike shop. I have a strong suspicion the temptation is strong to unload rejects and returned merchandise on the US market.
Other Forum Comments
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Article by Funbob Kickpants, a LetsKickScoot forum member who lives in the USA. Portions first posted on our Forums on February 2, 2015. Editing by Karen Little. First published as an article on March 27, 2015. All rights reserved by www.LetsKickScoot.com.